Regardless of whether you put their balls into play, it would be foolish to diminish the effort Callaway puts into innovation in the golf ball space. They’ve come a long, long way in a short time. Making inroads in this market segment is insanely difficult, and many of the David’s have settled for battling amongst themselves instead of toppling Goliath. Still, great products with great messaging succeed more often than not, and Callaway’s 2024 Chrome Tour line looks promising.
Though Chrome Soft, and its variations, has been a strong performer for the company, Tour feedback inspired Callaway to embark on a bold “cover to core” transformation of their premium golf ball line in 2024. Most evident is the lack of the word “Soft” in either of the two flagship lines’ names. Yes, Chrome Soft does still exist, but it’s a variation of the Chrome Tour Line, or possibly even an alternative to it, rather than the other way around. This is a big deal. “The Ball that Changed the Ball” has become synonymous with what we know about Callaway golf balls, and this change indicates the company is ready to make their next big step forward.
While companies regularly emphasize one or two improvements to their golf ball lines in a given year, all indications make it seem like the Chrome Tour is a completely new ball altogether. Just look at what Callaway is saying here: New core, new inner mantle, new outer mantle, new cover formulation, new aerodynamics, new player number and side stamp, and finally a new, more unform paint application process. With all these changes, the company is leveraging highly advanced technology at every point in the design and manufacturing process. While it seems AI weariness may be setting in with some consumers, its application in things like aerodynamics has opened up possibilities that weren’t available even a few years ago.
Key Innovations
Hyper Fast Soft Core
Central to the Chrome Tour line (see what I did there?) is an all-new, Hyper Fast Soft Core. The hyperbolic name aside, this entirely new rubber system is designed to deliver more speed, and it succeeds at that according to figures provided by Callaway. The goal is for every layer to be compressed on every full shot, promoting ideal spin rates through the bag while providing all-important feel.
However, at its core (there I go again), the Hyper Fast Soft Core is there to provide ball speed, and even more specifically, driver ball speed. The new base polymer and other ingredients give Chrome Tour more ball speed for all three new products. With feel being as important as it is to the world’s most elite players, the key was maximizing this speed at a preferred or desired compression level.
Seamless Tour Aero
Seamless Tour Aero is, again, a complete reimagination of the Callaway golf balls’ aerodynamic properties. Each ball has been given a unique aerodynamic pattern that matches the individual launch properties of each ball to optimize ball flight.
What Callaway learned from observing Tour staff was that if a ball’s launch conditions (imparted by the aerodynamic properties of the dimples) didn’t fit into ideal flight windows for the type of ball they played, players would start manipulating launch conditions or making non-ideal adjustments. A simple example of that would be a player choosing a ball that offered too little spin with their irons just to hit their ideal launch window with driver.
Callaway developed an in-house Computational Fluid Dynamics tool (the picture above shows it in action) that not only enabled their engineers to visualize airflow around the entirety of the ball, but also down to each individual dimple. This also allows the company to visualize aerodynamics for the entirety of the ball’s flight, from the highest speeds at impact to the eventual slowing that occurs near landing.
This led to an industry-first dimple pattern that combines Callaway’s familiar Hex design with discretely placed round dimples. It provides flight stability from start to finish, unique to each ball for a variety of conditions. Callaway also leveraged their partnership with Top Golf for technology that allows them to accurately track the entirety of the balls’ flight in real-world conditions, validating lab results with over 10,000 shots.
High Performance Tour Urethane Soft Cover
Key to improved spin and feel is the all-new High Performance Tour Urethane Cover, which Callaway says is not only their softest-ever cover formulation but is also softer than what their main competitors are producing.
The company had to figure out how to take advantages of the benefits a softer cover provides, increased and more consistent spin, for example, while maintaining low driver spin. Feedback from Tour staff has been positive, with comments centering around the new cover’s softer feel, lower launch, and increased spin on wedge shots. This benefit trickles down to iron swings as well, as more surface contact results in more consistent spin rates from swing to swing, dialing in both distance control and lateral dispersion.
All these technologies roll into Callaway’s concept of Precision Technology and their desire to offer the most consistency possible with each golf shot.
Chrome Tour Review
Simply put, Chrome Tour is the face of the 2024 Callaway line. It’s designed for the better player that likes a slightly softer feel. It has roots in a Tour-only prototype that Callaway describes as a “softer, more penetrating-flight version of the Chrome Soft X”. If we are simplifying what the Chrome Tour is, that description gets pretty close, though it doesn’t bring the speed gains into the discussion. Callaway found that many Tour players valued softer feel around the green and a more penetrating flight than what the Chrome Soft X offered, and they wanted to fill that hole in the market.
With a universal desire to be both faster and longer, Callaway’s data indicates they’ve managed to succeed at besting their competitors on paper. The Chrome Tour approaches Chrome Soft X levels of speed, with a softer feel and flatter ball flight.
Chrome Tour X
Chrome Tour X is both Callaway’s fastest golf ball and highest spinning option. Though it carries forward the ideas that made Chrome Soft X so popular, the new core design enabled Callaway to best the driver ball speeds seen from what they claim was already the fastest ball on Tour. They believe that in addition to the performance benefits, knowing you are playing the fastest ball on the market is the ultimate confidence builder.
In addition to the tangible speed gains, Callaway is reporting that the new cover and overall formulation of the Chrome Tour X led to a noticeable gain in greenside spin. Using the 50 yard wedge shot as a metric, they are reporting over 300 rpm more spin than their nearest competitors.
Chrome Soft
Callaway’s goal with the Chrome Soft was take one of their most loved products, primarily designed for “aspirational” players, and improve it without taking away any of the things that made it so popular to begin with. While the speed gains they report aren’t as overtly impressive as what we’ve seen with Chrome Tour and Chrome Tour X, Chrome soft still manages to lead its segment.
Callaway looked towards Seamless Tour Aero to optimize distance with the Chrome Soft. By raising peak height, they managed to not only increase carry distance, but optimize the flight characteristics to provide more total distance. It should maintain the same low spin with driver as previous generations, with a slightly higher peak height.
Color Options and Visual Technology
It would be hard to dispute the notion that Callaway leads the industry in Visual Technology options. They offer a robust number of choices, ranging from standard white, to 360 Triple Track, to TruTrack, and finally the still-popular Truvis. In addition to the options seen above for the Chrome Tour line, Callaway will be introducing a couple new visual options to their lower-priced lines. ERC Soft will be available with what they are calling 360 Fade and SuperSoft will have a Splatter 360 option in 2024. SuperSoft will also be featured in a number of special edition designs throughout the year that will be worth keeping an eye out for.
Details
Callaway summarizes their Chrome Tour line by saying, “From cover to core, Chrome Tour is the new gold standard Tour ball for better players who want the best in distance and feel. Every detail has been optimized including a new core, inner mantle, outer mantle, and cover formulation. Chrome Tour is engineered for outstanding performance with exceptional speed, consistent flight, incredible spin, and greenside control.”
Make sure to follow along on the THP forums in the coming weeks as our forum members and participants in the 2023 Grandaddy, amateur golf’s greatest event, will have feedback to share.
- MSRP $54.99/dozen
- Available 2/2/2024
- More information at www.callawaygolf.com
Just got some new CS Tru Tracks to give a try here. Looking forward to seeing if they’re any better than the 22 version for me.
Anyone else having issues with custom golf balls ordered directly from Callaway? Its been about two months and still nothing.
Customer service has offered to cancel the order :ROFLMAO:
Probably had my best weather conditions last night to get a real feel for the new chrome tour ball triple track. I have to say this has a very soft feel, I have played Titleist pro v1 for the last few years. I thought the ball was soft off the face yet I was able to still have some spin around the green when chipping, I thought it felt soft on the hands and like it released like I wanted it to. Excited to get a few more rounds in with this ball.
I just did my first Ballnamic fitting. I’ve been playing the Bridgestone Tour B RX for the past couple months and seeing good success with it, but every recommended ball decidedly beat it out in the fitting. I had begun testing the Chrome Tour prior to being selected as a tester for the Mindset golf balls and now the Chrome Tour was the top recommendation from Ballnamic. Very curious to compare the CT to my current gamer head to head.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12320520, member: 62865″]
Kinda want to try something with the Tru Track.
What are folks thought about CS v. CT?
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Bumping this for some of the guys who’ve played both CS and CT
[USER=19877]@Mmaynard11[/USER] (at least I think Cap has used both) [USER=3386]@BigMac[/USER] [USER=52535]@oumagic[/USER]
Played the Chrome Tour again Sunday and it just reinforced what I’ve been seeing. I get all the spin and descent angle I need on long and short approaches, plenty of distance off the tee, and the short game spin is in the sweet spot for me. I’m cooling on the TruTrack for putting, as I think it might be causing me to over think a bit (had a rough putting round), but that’s a very personal thing I think.
Sidenote, I sent a short video to Callaway at their request giving them the quick summary of my thoughts on the ball, and they sent me another dozen Chrome Tours! Very awesome of them!
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12320520, member: 62865″]
Kinda want to try something with the Tru Track.
What are folks thought about CS v. CT?
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For me it came down to spin on shots into the green and where I saw the CT providing more. In the end that won out for me. Let me see if I have any CS left and if I do I will send a sleeve your way.
[QUOTE=”outlawx, post: 12321401, member: 74252″]
Anyone else having issues with custom golf balls ordered directly from Callaway? Its been about two months and still nothing.
Customer service has offered to cancel the order :ROFLMAO:
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I ordered the yellow CT tru track a little after launch and just got a shipping notification yesterday.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12320520, member: 62865″]
Kinda want to try something with the Tru Track.
What are folks thought about CS v. CT?
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I like the feel of CS a tad more and I seem to hit it a tad straighter. I could play CT or CS easily if one or the other wasn’t available. I think I hit the CT a tad farther. I am using highly technical terms because I don’t have them on a monitor and just going by what I think. I mainly switched after spending time chipping a sleeve of CS and just liked the softer feel around the green and off the putter. I have both in the bag and a sleeve of Supersoft in case I am having a bad day. I love a soft golf ball and Chrome Soft is the softest with great performance that I have tried.
[QUOTE=”Mmaynard11, post: 12321719, member: 19877″]
For me it came down to spin on shots into the green and where I saw the CT providing more. In the end that won out for me. Let me see if I have any CS left and if I do I will send a sleeve your way.
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The people’s captain coming through!
[QUOTE=”oumagic, post: 12321744, member: 52535″]
I like the feel of CS a tad more and I seem to hit it a tad straighter. I could play CT or CS easily if one or the other wasn’t available. I think I hit the CT a tad farther. I am using highly technical terms because I don’t have them on a monitor and just going by what I think. I mainly switched after spending time chipping a sleeve of CS and just liked the softer feel around the green and off the putter.
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I tend to be your kind of ‘technical’ player. if I get too into ball flight numbers I go nutty and chase them.
thoughts on if you noticed any difference in peak height with driver between the two?
[QUOTE=”jayronmillz10, post: 12321501, member: 77566″]
Probably had my best weather conditions last night to get a real feel for the new chrome tour ball triple track. I have to say this has a very soft feel, I have played Titleist pro v1 for the last few years. I thought the ball was soft off the face yet I was able to still have some spin around the green when chipping, I thought it felt soft on the hands and like it released like I wanted it to. Excited to get a few more rounds in with this ball.
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How was the ball flight compared to the Pro v1? Distance with irons?
[QUOTE=”Jeff Spicoli, post: 12321765, member: 10545″]
How was the ball flight compared to the Pro v1? Distance with irons?
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I can’t say for certain right now because I have so many variables that have changed this year. I seem to be absolutely crushing it though. And my ball flight is higher with a better decent angle. I also had recoil darts installed in my irons , so it may be a combo of both.
[QUOTE=”jayronmillz10, post: 12321782, member: 77566″]
I can’t say for certain right now because I have so many variables that have changed this year. I seem to be absolutely crushing it though. And my ball flight is higher with a better decent angle. I also had recoil darts installed in my irons , so it may be a combo of both.
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It’s to tell what’s doing what when you have a new ball and clubs happening simultaneously.
I’ve been really happy with the Chrome Tour. I’m coming from the XLS so it wasn’t a huge departure, although the Chrome Tour feels much softer and closer to the Pro v1 than the XLS IMO. The consistency in ball flight, launch, and carry have been impressive and now that the weather is decent, I’m starting to see what it can do around the greens and seeing a slight uptick in carry.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12321759, member: 62865″]
I tend to be your kind of ‘technical’ player. if I get too into ball flight numbers I go nutty and chase them.
thoughts on if you noticed any difference in peak height with driver between the two?
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I hit them both high (playing my driver at 8 degrees). I think I get less spin off of driver with CS. When I did the fitting with Callaway, we didn’use these balls on the range. My fitter recommended that I try them both. He thought the spin for me with driver would be better with CS but was worried that the spin on irons wouldn’t be enough. So far, CS has had enough spin for me off of irons, but I have only played 2 full rounds with them. Monday afternoon will be a test: I am playing my home course with new and rock-hard greens. I have played it with CT just fine and can provide more feedback after that round regarding CS. For now, I am keeping 3 balls in my bag; eventually I will have a budget ball (supersoft) and a performance ball (CS/CT).
For higher spin driver players, I think more should give CS a look.
[QUOTE=”oumagic, post: 12321796, member: 52535″]
I hit them both high (playing my driver at 8 degrees). I think I get less spin off of driver with CS. When I did the fitting with Callaway, we didn’use these balls on the range. My fitter recommended that I try them both. He thought the spin for me with driver would be better with CS but was worried that the spin on irons wouldn’t be enough. So far, CS has had enough spin for me off of irons, but I have only played 2 full rounds with them. Monday afternoon will be a test: I am playing my home course with new and rock-hard greens. I have played it with CT just fine and can provide more feedback after that round regarding CS. For now, I am keeping 3 balls in my bag; eventually I will have a budget ball (supersoft) and a performance ball (CS/CT).
For higher spin driver players, I think more should give CS a look.
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That last bit swayed which direction I’m going to go for a dozen as my driver spin is easily north of three on average when I hit balls in the back
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12321809, member: 62865″]
That last bit swayed which direction I’m going to go for a dozen as my driver spin is easily north of three on average when I hit balls in the back
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At the fitting, I was just over 3000 with the old CSX. That is why he said to try both. I think I am sub 3000 with both; I am just noticing a slightly straighter flight with CS and then of course feel around the green. If you like lots of spin around the green, you might like CT. I am not trying to talk you into CS; I think there is a high probability that I end up with CT as my gamer
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12321753, member: 62865″]
The people’s captain coming through!
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Ok I have a sleeve I can send your way. Tonight I will get on the LM and provide numbers on Driver, 7i, and wedge with the CS. Any other areas you want to see numbers on?
Wind-This past weekend it was pretty windy where we were. I had some provx and ctx with me.
The performance between the balls was wild. The ctx seemed to hold its lines much better and retained the distance I was expecting. I was clubbing up and trying to account for the distance.
Who knew the aero design was that impactful.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12320520, member: 62865″]
Kinda want to try something with the Tru Track.
What are folks thought about CS v. CT?
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I’ve played both pretty extensively, and could easily play either one as my gamer. The CT spins on the greens a little better, the CS feels better to me off wedges and putter (I don’t feel much difference off full swing shots). I’m leaning toward the CS as my favorite of the two just for the softer feel, but if I played softer/more receptive greens I might lean toward the CT (our greens are hard as rocks and you can’t stop any ball on them, so the advantage is kind of muted). I don’t have launch monitor numbers, but from playing them on the course I don’t see any noticeable difference in launch/ball flight or distance that would sway me one way or the other.
As far as the TruTrack goes, I like it a lot. I bought CS Triple Tracks on the B3G1 deal because they were the only ones available from Callaway, but I would have much rather had TruTracks. I later discovered that another site had offered the TruTracks on the B3G1 deal, but it was already too late. I prefer TruTrack to either Triple Track or Truvis, if given a choice.
[QUOTE=”BigMac, post: 12322011, member: 3386″]
I’ve played both pretty extensively, and could easily play either one as my gamer. The CT spins on the greens a little better, the CS feels better to me off wedges and putter (I don’t feel much difference off full swing shots). I’m leaning toward the CS as my favorite of the two just for the softer feel, but if I played softer/more receptive greens I might lean toward the CT (our greens are hard as rocks and you can’t stop any ball on them, so the advantage is kind of muted). I don’t have launch monitor numbers, but from playing them on the course I don’t see any noticeable difference in launch/ball flight or distance that would sway me one way or the other.
As far as the TruTrack goes, I like it a lot. I bought CS Triple Tracks on the B3G1 deal because they were the only ones available from Callaway, but I would have much rather had TruTracks. I later discovered that another site had offered the TruTracks on the B3G1 deal, but it was already too late. I prefer TruTrack to either Triple Track or Truvis, if given a choice.
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Still feel like there is a slight differences between 22′ CS & 24′ CS?
[QUOTE=”Jeff Spicoli, post: 12321795, member: 10545″]
It’s to tell what’s doing what when you have a new ball and clubs happening simultaneously.
I’ve been really happy with the Chrome Tour. I’m coming from the XLS so it wasn’t a huge departure, although the Chrome Tour feels much softer and closer to the Pro v1 than the XLS IMO. The consistency in ball flight, launch, and carry have been impressive and now that the weather is decent, I’m starting to see what it can do around the greens and seeing a slight uptick in carry.
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That’s awesome to hear! One thing going I like is the triple track. I do love that and feel like it gives me confidence in lining up my puts.
Have you ever had a ball fitting?
[QUOTE=”Iceman!, post: 12322081, member: 32688″]
Still feel like there is a slight differences between 22′ CS & 24′ CS?
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[I]Very[/I] slight difference. I’ve been playing some of my leftover ’22 CS mixed in with the ’24 CS, so I’ve been able to compare them too. Feel is basically identical, it seems like they spin a little better on the greens and the ball flight is a bit more stable (especially in the wind) with the Seamless Aero thing going on. It’s not enough to make the ’22 CS obsolete or make it a “bad ball” by comparison, but any improvement is a good improvement, no matter how small.
I think the wind performance is the thing I’ve noticed most. It has surprised me a few times when I’ve clubbed up when playing into the wind and still ended up long because it cut through better than I thought, or when I’ve aimed to one side or the other to compensate for a side wind and ended up missing to that side because the wind didn’t take the ball offline as much as I thought it would.
[QUOTE=”jayronmillz10, post: 12322091, member: 77566″]
That’s awesome to hear! One thing going I like is the triple track. I do love that and feel like it gives me confidence in lining up my puts.
Have you ever had a ball fitting?
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I go back and forth on the triple track. I use it sometimes, but others I don’t want to mess with it.
It’s been a long time. I launch it high, have a high peak height on all clubs and can put too much spin on my irons. The Chrome Tour fits me really well from the numbers I have seen. The X would be too much spin with irons and wedges for what I need.
It goes high when I try but doesn’t climb. I can keep it down out of the wind. If the greens are in good shape the ball checks up well. I’m sure there are other good products on the market, but the Chrome Tour is for me. Be very hard to get me out of this golf ball
[QUOTE=”Jeff Spicoli, post: 12322131, member: 10545″]
I go back and forth on the triple track. I use it sometimes, but others I don’t want to mess with it.
It’s been a long time. I launch it high, have a high peak height on all clubs and can put too much spin on my irons. The Chrome Tour fits me really well from the numbers I have seen. The X would be too much spin with irons and wedges for what I need.
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See that’s where I’d like some data, and too figure out what I need. I had a problem with too low of spin at my Shaft Up event and ended up needing to go to the x head to add some more spin. I was at like 1800-1900 with the ls head. So it made me wonder as well should I be in the chrome tour x?
[QUOTE=”jayronmillz10, post: 12322149, member: 77566″]
See that’s where I’d like some data, and too figure out what I need. I had a problem with too low of spin at my Shaft Up event and ended up needing to go to the x head to add some more spin. I was at like 1800-1900 with the ls head. So it made me wonder as well should I be in the chrome tour x?
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You should see more spin off the tee with the Chrome Tour X, although I don’t think it will be as big of a difference the spin on the irons between the Chrome Tour and Chrome Tour X.
[QUOTE=”Jeff Spicoli, post: 12322179, member: 10545″]
You should see more spin off the tee with the Chrome Tour X, although I don’t think it will be as big of a difference the spin on the irons between the Chrome Tour and Chrome Tour X.
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Awesome, appreciate the feedback! My concern with going to a ball fitting is I’ll be pushed a certain brand on me. I like what callaway is doing! I switched over to chrome soft at the end of last season from pro v1 and I really loved the feel of the chrome softs last year
[QUOTE=”outlawx, post: 12321983, member: 74252″]
Wind-This past weekend it was pretty windy where we were. I had some provx and ctx with me.
The performance between the balls was wild. The ctx seemed to hold its lines much better and retained the distance I was expecting. I was clubbing up and trying to account for the distance.
Who knew the aero design was that impactful.
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It was talked a lot back in December by Finley. Slightly underestimated in my opinion. It has been windy here recently and I haven’t noticed the wind affecting distance or flight pattern. No pushing on the green during putting either.
[QUOTE=”Mmaynard11, post: 12322417, member: 19877″]
It was talked a lot back in December by Finley. Slightly underestimated in my opinion. It has been windy here recently and I haven’t noticed the wind affecting distance or flight pattern. No pushing on the green during putting either.
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Its wild how impactful that is.
[QUOTE=”outlawx, post: 12322418, member: 74252″]
Its wild how impactful that is.
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To many it’s not even noticeable but when put to the test…
[IMG alt=”Miami Vice Deal With It GIF”]https://media1.giphy.com/media/1jnyRP4DorCh2/200.gif[/IMG]
Just a little ball testing with the CS vs CT for [USER=62865]@Scooby45[/USER]
[ATTACH type=”full”]9262467[/ATTACH]
Results incoming…
[QUOTE=”Mmaynard11, post: 12322417, member: 19877″]
It was talked a lot back in December by Finley. Slightly underestimated in my opinion. It has been windy here recently and I haven’t noticed the wind affecting distance or flight pattern. No pushing on the green during putting either.
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Watching that documentary and the ability to gauge what’s happening to the ball in testing at so many points during flight is crazy.
Okay did a little testing this evening of a post by [USER=62865]@Scooby45[/USER] regarding those of us who have played the CS & CT. For those that know my game I feel I am a slower swing speed golfer and over the years have seen my distance drastically decrease. The testing was 5 shots each with Driver, 7i, and a 58* wedge using my GC3 and the results are below.
So what ball would you be gaming?
[B]Driver: Ai Smoke Max 9* with UST Mamiya LinQ M40x Blue[/B]
[ATTACH type=”full”]9262469[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH type=”full”]9262470[/ATTACH]
[B]Apex Pro 7i w/ MMT shafts
[ATTACH type=”full”]9262471[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH type=”full”]9262472[/ATTACH]
Jaws Raw 58* w/ Spinner Shaft
[ATTACH type=”full”]9262473[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH type=”full”]9262474[/ATTACH][/B]
No numbers to talk about but CT continues to perform for me. Great distance off the tee tonight, good ball flight, distance and holding power with irons and wedges, and a great feel off the putter. Really impressed with this ball,
[QUOTE=”Mmaynard11, post: 12322632, member: 19877″]
Okay did a little testing this evening of a post by [USER=62865]@Scooby45[/USER] regarding those of us who have played the CS & CT. For those that know my game I feel I am a slower swing speed golfer and over the years have seen my distance drastically decrease. The testing was 5 shots each with Driver, 7i, and a 58* wedge using my GC3 and the results are below.
So what ball would you be gaming?
[B]Driver: Ai Smoke Max 9* with UST Mamiya LinQ M40x Blue[/B]
[ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_0038.jpeg”]9262469[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_0040.jpeg”]9262470[/ATTACH]
[B]Apex Pro 7i w/ MMT shafts
[ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_0042.jpeg”]9262471[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_0041.jpeg”]9262472[/ATTACH]
Jaws Raw 58* w/ Spinner Shaft
[ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_0045.jpeg”]9262473[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_0044.jpeg”]9262474[/ATTACH][/B]
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Interesting you got more spin across the board with the CS. Both are close. So it would come down to feel fit you.
[QUOTE=”mtbloco, post: 12322664, member: 53632″]
Interesting you got more spin across the board with the CS. Both are close. So it would come down to feel fit you.
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I found that to be very interesting as well. I should have threw the CTX into the mix. I’ve done that test early on and had numbers on paper.
[QUOTE=”Mmaynard11, post: 12322666, member: 19877″]
I found that to be very interesting as well. I should have threw the CTX into the mix. I’ve done that test early on and had numbers on paper.
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Were you shots random? Or batched?
[QUOTE=”mtbloco, post: 12322669, member: 53632″]
Were you shots random? Or batched?
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Batched. I hit 5 shots with CS then 5 with CT then moved on to the next club and did the same.
[QUOTE=”mtbloco, post: 12322664, member: 53632″]
Interesting you got more spin across the board with the CS. Both are close. So it would come down to feel fit you.
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That was what really stuck out to me as well when looking at the numbers. I figured it would be CTX > CT > CS in terms of spin numbers.
[QUOTE=”Mmaynard11, post: 12322632, member: 19877″]
Okay did a little testing this evening of a post by [USER=62865]@Scooby45[/USER] regarding those of us who have played the CS & CT. For those that know my game I feel I am a slower swing speed golfer and over the years have seen my distance drastically decrease. The testing was 5 shots each with Driver, 7i, and a 58* wedge using my GC3 and the results are below.
So what ball would you be gaming?
[B]Driver: Ai Smoke Max 9* with UST Mamiya LinQ M40x Blue[/B]
[ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_0038.jpeg”]9262469[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_0040.jpeg”]9262470[/ATTACH]
[B]Apex Pro 7i w/ MMT shafts
[ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_0042.jpeg”]9262471[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_0041.jpeg”]9262472[/ATTACH]
Jaws Raw 58* w/ Spinner Shaft
[ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_0045.jpeg”]9262473[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_0044.jpeg”]9262474[/ATTACH][/B]
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Interesting on the lower spin on the CT. I feel torn between the same two balls.
[QUOTE=”OldandStiff, post: 12319121, member: 53737″]
It’s been interesting to watch Xander as a former LS guy transition to the X. He started with the Chrome Tour this year but moved away from it, and his ball and clubs combinations stands out a bit now to me. The other guy I keep an eye on for equipment stuff plays different ball brand so I can’t really gather much from that on these. And it’s been interesting to see how it’s all playing out on course for Xander.
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I’ll tell you from playing the CSX last year that this ball is not a version 2 of that, it’s a completely different ball. With the conditions that I have played in so far this year, had I been playing the CSX I feel that ball would have spun/blown off the course. This ball with the way my equipment is setup is working so freaking good it’s unreal. I’m just about getting full distance into winds that I should be clubbing up on. I very much might have this setup for at least 2 years lol.
[QUOTE=”jlew, post: 12322608, member: 40346″]
Watching that documentary and the ability to gauge what’s happening to the ball in testing at so many points during flight is crazy.
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If I remember correctly, 10,000+ data points off of 1 shot is recorded.
[USER=62865]@Scooby45[/USER]
I snuck out today to play CS on my home course with the concrete-hard greens. I think more spin with CT might help me on this course. Not enough concern for me to stop playing CS on my course, but enough that I will definitely try more CT on the course before I buy CS.
Both are great balls. I am just trying to decide which works better on the course conditions I play.
[QUOTE=”oumagic, post: 12323000, member: 52535″]
[USER=62865]@Scooby45[/USER]
I snuck out today to play CS on my home course with the concrete-hard greens. I think more spin with CT might help me on this course. Not enough concern for me to stop playing CS on my course, but enough that I will definitely try more CT on the course before I buy CS.
Both are great balls. I am just trying to decide which works better on the course conditions I play.
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Appreciate it. How do they play off the tee?
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12323060, member: 62865″]
Appreciate it. How do they play off the tee?
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I was getting good distance today with CS. I might try CT when I play Monday afternoon.
I had a couple of fades that might have faded too much with CT? At this point, I might just be making things up in my head, though ?
For my slower swing speed (95 mph driver), these balls play similar for me. Just both are really good. I had a few approach shots that I think may have held better with CT today.
[QUOTE=”oumagic, post: 12323062, member: 52535″]
I was getting good distance today with CS. I might try CT when I play Monday afternoon.
I had a couple of fades that might have faded too much with CT? At this point, I might just be making things up in my head, though ?
For my slower swing speed (95 mph driver), these balls play similar for me. Just both are really good. I had a few approach shots that I think may have held better with CT today.
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From one to another, 95 isn’t slower ?
Thanks for the feedback
[QUOTE=”Mmaynard11, post: 12322632, member: 19877″]
Okay did a little testing this evening of a post by [USER=62865]@Scooby45[/USER] regarding those of us who have played the CS & CT. For those that know my game I feel I am a slower swing speed golfer and over the years have seen my distance drastically decrease. The testing was 5 shots each with Driver, 7i, and a 58* wedge using my GC3 and the results are below.
So what ball would you be gaming?
[B]Driver: Ai Smoke Max 9* with UST Mamiya LinQ M40x Blue[/B]
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[ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_0040.jpeg”]9262470[/ATTACH]
[B]Apex Pro 7i w/ MMT shafts
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Jaws Raw 58* w/ Spinner Shaft
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Spinnier on the driver….Thats interesting
[QUOTE=”Mmaynard11, post: 12322632, member: 19877″]
Okay did a little testing this evening of a post by [USER=62865]@Scooby45[/USER] regarding those of us who have played the CS & CT. For those that know my game I feel I am a slower swing speed golfer and over the years have seen my distance drastically decrease. The testing was 5 shots each with Driver, 7i, and a 58* wedge using my GC3 and the results are below.
So what ball would you be gaming?
[B]Driver: Ai Smoke Max 9* with UST Mamiya LinQ M40x Blue[/B]
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[ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_0040.jpeg”]9262470[/ATTACH]
[B]Apex Pro 7i w/ MMT shafts
[ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_0042.jpeg”]9262471[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH type=”full” alt=”IMG_0041.jpeg”]9262472[/ATTACH]
Jaws Raw 58* w/ Spinner Shaft
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Interesting drop in spin rates with the CT particularly in 7i…wonder how CTX would get on for you. Not un-playable spin by any means
[QUOTE=”bsbmike5, post: 12323793, member: 8099″]
Interesting drop in spin rates with the CT particularly in 7i…wonder how CTX would get on for you. Not un-playable spin by any means
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I think I’m going to rerun the testing and include the CTX in for the full picture. I am looking for the numbers I jotted down when I did it previously, but can’t find them.
[QUOTE=”outlawx, post: 12323221, member: 74252″]
Spinnier on the driver….Thats interesting
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Not really when CT has one shot with spin over 3000 rpm versus 2 for CS. CT’s highest spin was 3274 rpm against CS at 3549 and 3800 rpm.