Cleveland Golf is unique among the major golf companies in that it has a couple very distinct identities in consumers’ minds. First, and probably most notable in terms of history, is their presence as a high-performance, Tour level wedge company. However, in recent years the company has also built a strong following as an “everyman’s” golf brand, offering a full line of clubs designed to make the game easier. These clubs, thanks to their performance and some clever marketing, have even found appeal with an increasingly young target audience, which is new territory for Cleveland. The 2024’s Launcher XL and Halo XL lines are a great example of this, both offering maximum forgiveness and playability at reasonable prices.
Still, there was an opportunity to reach another golfer; one that wants forgiveness, but in a sleeker and more refined looking package. While 2021’s Launcher XL irons got close to this, there was some definite room for improvement, which has culminated in the all new ZipCore XL irons. At an incredibly attractive price point of $899 for a 4-PW set, these irons provide a much cleaner look than anything we’ve seen from Cleveland in a long time, and they still have a number of innovations designed to make them easy to use.
Key Technologies
We love that companies have recognized the inherent differences between long/mid irons and scoring irons and are building each type differently within a set. The ZipCore XL are a great example of this design philosophy in action.
ZipCore
By now, most of us should be familiar with ZipCore. It’s been a huge success for Cleveland in their wedge line, most recently in the RTX 6. The company saw that success and felt it could easily progress into their irons, specifically from 8 iron and above, where we are looking for the most accuracy. The premise is simple to understand, Cleveland has removed material from the heel/hosel area of the club, replaced it with a low-density core, and moved the center of gravity into a more optimal position in the club head. This all translates to better consistency, feel, and forgiveness, all vital qualities we seek in our scoring irons.
MainFrame
Now, accuracy matters with any iron, but there is a definite shift in expectations and needs when we have a 5, 6, or even 7 iron in hand. If we’re being perfectly honest, most of us (that would gravitate towards an iron like the ZipCore XL) are just hoping to make solid contact and hit the ball the right distance in the general direction we are aiming.
To increase the chances of this happening, the AI-tweaked MainFrame uses a “variable network of grooves, channels, and cavities milled into the backside of the club face” to let the face flex as much as possible, creating the highest possible ball speeds. In addition, weight pads place more mass low and deep, which boosts MOI and positions the center-of-gravity where it can provide the most forgiveness.
HydraZip
Cleveland has utilized progressive groove patterns in the past, and they are doing that again with the ZipCore XL line, but they’ve added an exciting addition in the form of HydraZip. HydraZip, which we saw introduced on 2023’s RTX 6 wedges, is a face blasting and laser milling process that enhances surface friction for more consistent spin performance, especially in wet conditions. It’s important to note that the term “wet conditions” doesn’t necessarily mean rain. Whether it’s early morning dew, a mid-day irrigation cycle, or just damp grass, water can have a huge impact on spin. While it almost seems too good to be true, our evaluation of HydraZip on wedges was nothing short of amazing.
XL Head Design
Cleveland’s use of “XL” with ZipCore irons is an interesting thing. On one hand, you have an oversized iron that exhibits all the visual qualities that bring forgiveness and distance to mind. On the other hand, they really aren’t that large and are definitely not clunky looking in hand. Our point here is that you shouldn’t let “XL” scare you away if you like a streamlined game improvement iron. Rather, you should know that the heads have been individually shaped in a way that allows peak performance. The cavity, while substantial, is concealed nicely, and there isn’t a ton of overhang at address with the long irons. If we were forced to generalize the shaping of the ZipCore XL irons, we’d say that they have a slightly longer blade length, most evident in the longer irons, and the short irons provide a good amount of vertical real estate. The topline and offset are extremely reasonable for an iron like this and should appeal to almost anybody that finds themself shopping in this category.
V Shaped Sole and Action Mass CB
A pair of carryover technologies round out the ZipCore XL’s set of features. Action Mass CB is Cleveland’s counterweight system that consists of an 8 gram weight under the grip that is designed to encourage a more stable backswing and make it easier to drop the club inside with a square face. It should be noted that Cleveland offers an “accuracy build” option as well, which comes with ½” shorter shafts and no counterweight.
Seeing Cleveland add the V Shaped Sole, a staple of the Srixon brand, to the ZipCore XL irons was a pleasant surprise. This proven technology is designed to offer superior turf interaction and is a perennial favorite with consumers.
What Sets ZipCore XL Apart?
Since we mentioned the V Sole, it’s worth bringing up a point. If you’re a gear nerd, you probably already know that Cleveland and Srixon Golf are sister companies, and Srixon released a full line of irons in 2023, ranging from blades to hollow bodies. Because of that fact, it’s important to consider where the ZipCore XL’s fit under the larger Dunlop umbrella. The ZipCore XL irons do share some technologies with Srixon’s ZX4 MKII irons, but they are also distinctly different in other ways. While it is our opinion that a golfer that is comfortable with one of these irons would also find comfort in the other, they are not the same.
To start, the ZipCore XL irons retain more of a typical Cleveland shape than the more squared-off Srixon lines. In addition, though it’s slight, ZipCore XL are a bit larger, especially when it comes to blade length. We are talking millimeters here, but it’s a noticeable difference when you hold both irons in hand. Finally, while the $1,199 ZX4 MK II are hollow body irons with a forged face, the ZipCore XL are cast cavity back irons priced at $899.
These two irons, though in the same general family, feel different, look different, and ultimately perform somewhat differently. We can’t say which is “better” but can say that having these two options available to meet a variety of preferences, whether based on looks, performance, or budget, is a great benefit to consumers.
Looks, Feel, and Performance
Aside from a couple small bits of polished chrome on the cavity side, the ZipCore XL irons are finished in a low-glare satin finish. The cavity itself, while not completely minimalist in nature, is as clean as we’ve seen from Cleveland since 2013’s 588 MT and 588 TT sets. However, while those two irons bordered on boring, the ZipCore cavity is modern and youthful. We might as well just say it, because we aren’t the only ones thinking it. This is the best looking game improvement iron Cleveland has ever made. Argue if you’d like but know you’re just wasting your time.
We’ve already discussed the blade length but haven’t touched much on some of the other aspects of the ZipCore’s XL iron’s looks. Starting at the topline, we see a pleasant middle of the road thickness that doesn’t require any beveling or masking to appear more attractive. The amount of offset can be characterized as moderate, though it’s on the lower end for irons of this type. The slightly more compact ZX4 MK II irons have almost identical offset measurements throughout the set, with certain irons in the ZipCore XL set actually having a fraction less. The V Shaped Sole is also very much in the middle ground between thin and wide, again almost identical to the ZX4 sole’s width.
Feel is an aspect that will set the ZipCore XL irons apart in today’s market, mostly because they have a cavity back instead of being hollow body. Even with the various inserts, foams, and plastics, hollow body irons do have a certain feel. Some people love the sound of a good hollow body and its powerful feel at impact, while others find it less enjoyable. If you’re in the latter group, or can appreciate both, you should enjoy what the ZipCore XL’s have to offer. The combination of the cavity back and ZipCore weight manipulation gives this iron set a more muted, dare I say “soft”, feel at impact. This all depends on impact position of course, as the sounds from toe and heel impacts sharpen up quickly, but the middle of the face is very nice.
Regarding performance, which was tested both indoors and outdoors, it’s difficult to find the right words. We didn’t see anything worthy of hyperbolic phrases or exclamations, but rather saw just what we’d want or expect to see from irons of this type. Even with the 110g KBS Tour Lite, which are probably a little heavier than we personally prefer, distance was certainly on par with other irons we’ve tested in class. If we’re going to offer any comparisons, against the ZX4 MK II for example, we saw similar speeds, slightly lower launch and slightly higher spin. Slightly is the key word here.
Before getting too wrapped up in the numbers below, please keep a few things in mind. Indoor swings tend to produce a little lower spin, and the swing that created these numbers generally produces lower-than-average spin to begin with. In other words, don’t let the spin numbers freak you out. We all have our swing faults, and mine tend to result in less spin than most people produce. These ball speed, height, and distance numbers were great for winter, comparatively speaking, and something we’d be glad to play any day of the week. Outdoor performance backed up the indoor results, with the V Sole performing very well in soft, gross winter conditions.
Club Speed | Ball Speed | Launch Angle | Spin | Carry | Height | |
7 iron | 79 | 108 mph | 19 | 4422 | 153 y | 25 y |
9 iron | 76 | 101 mph | 19 | 6920 | 132 y | 24 y |
Specifications and Details
Cleveland’s ZipCore XL’s are offered with two stock shaft options, 110g KBS Tour Lite in steel and 65g UST Mamiya Helium Nanocore in graphite. The stock grip is a Lamkin Crossline 360, and as mentioned earlier, the set can be ordered in the “Accuracy Build”, where the shaft is slightly shorter and there is no counterweighting under the grip.
This set is available in 4 iron through SW, though the core set will consist of seven clubs at $899 with steel shafts and $999 with graphite. The ZipCore XL iron set will be available starting January 19, 2024. Custom order options are also available, with a variety of no-upcharge and premium shafts that can be viewed at us.dunlopsports.com/cleveland-golf.
These are on my list to definitely try in 2 weeks
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These are on my list to definitely try in 2 weeks
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I think you’ll enjoy how easy they are. I did the face impact chingadera on the Trackman and I was RARELY close to center strikes but they all flew. Those same shots on my 223’s would immediately let me know I fucked up.
Did anyone get the UST Helium shaft and does it play softer, stiffer or neutral?
I had last year model and they were fantastic irons except for the mid launch Project X Catalysis shafts I put in them which were to low-mid launch for this sweeper and holding greens was an issue.
Definitely in my top 2 to buy in 2024. Thanks.
[QUOTE=”Hacker67, post: 12195585, member: 71565″]
Did anyone get the UST Helium shaft and does it play softer, stiffer or neutral?
I had last year model and they were fantastic irons except for the mid launch Project X Catalysis shafts I put in them which were to low-mid launch for this sweeper and holding greens was an issue.
Definitely in my top 2 to buy in 2024. Thanks.
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Sorry to say I can’t help with the shafts.
Do you know if you’re launching the ball low, spinning it low, or maybe a little of both? Shaft may or may not help enough. A couple other options to explore are bending lofts and/or ball.
[QUOTE=”Hacker67, post: 12195585, member: 71565″]
Did anyone get the UST Helium shaft and does it play softer, stiffer or neutral?
I had last year model and they were fantastic irons except for the mid launch Project X Catalysis shafts I put in them which were to low-mid launch for this sweeper and holding greens was an issue.
Definitely in my top 2 to buy in 2024. Thanks.
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Interested in this as well…
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[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12195616, member: 1193″]
Sorry to say I can’t help with the shafts.
Do you know if you’re launching the ball low, spinning it low, or maybe a little of both? Shaft may or may not help enough. A couple other options to explore are bending lofts and/or ball.
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As a sweeper I would need a true high launch shaft as the UST Helium advertises especially with the modern strong lofts.
I’m going to hit them in an hour and see what I get.
Just got off a quick range session and I got to say these performed exactly as they did on track man… ball flight is where I want it and they are forgiving and long
[QUOTE=”Hacker67, post: 12196161, member: 71565″]
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As a sweeper I would need a true high launch shaft as the UST Helium advertises especially with the modern strong lofts.
I’m going to hit them in an hour and see what I get.
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How did you like the Helium? Did it help with launch?
[QUOTE=”Mabuckeye, post: 12197905, member: 57103″]
How did you like the Helium? Did it help with launch?
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I actually scored a mint set of Srixon ZX 4 mk ll with the DART F3 shaft today and never even made it to the Clevelands.
The DARTS F3 was giving me 16-18 launch and 5100 spin with a 80-85 swing speed on a 7 iron. It’s considered a mid launch shaft but as you know AOA plays a part in launch also.
I did feel the flex on the Helium and it felt like it had a low kick point which would be indicative of a high launching shaft.
You would really need to try both to see what fits you best.
Sorry I couldn’t be of more help but good luck.
Put in a quick 9 with these and the Mindset tour BX’s… Didnt play play particularly well. Inconsistent with the driver but irons were okay. Had a 191yd 7i, 175yd 8i and a 163yd 9i so they’re close to what I was playing on Trackman…
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Took a bit but the wife has made her choice for 2024 and she’s going Cleveland!
She can smoke the Helium 60F3 but going to go F2 and take a half inch off.
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Took a bit but the wife has made her choice for 2024 and she’s going Cleveland!
She can smoke the Helium 60F3 but going to go F2 and take a half inch off.
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They are so fun to swing… Because I’m an interwebz golfer, I struggle to say my “7i” goes 190 yards now… I’ll probably just refer to them by their lofts from now on.
It looks like I’ll be grabbing the set GW, rather than the 6i, since that’s where the gap will be…
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It looks like I’ll be grabbing the set GW, rather than the 6i, since that’s where the gap will be…
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That makes sense to me. What wedges are you pairing with this setup?
[QUOTE=”chile, post: 12189381, member: 54997″]
I wasn’t ready for that. The pin was 179 :oops:… After some other swings, the 8i was still too long and it turned out that the 9i was juuust right. Now to figure out how this translates on the course.
And they get up… I was getting 115 peak height on some shots with the 7… I usually struggle to get 100 and over but I was consistently above 100.
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That was why I fired my UHX irons. Too long, really hot shots. Too much Y axis dispersion. CB short irons were OK, but the hollow 4-7 were all over the place.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12201944, member: 1193″]
That makes sense to me. What wedges are you pairing with this setup?
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for now, it will be the current set up in the signature… I’ll update wedges this summer, if not before… Will stick with the CBX line. I have thought about trying the RTX’s again but the CBX line is where my comfort is at.
I’ll keep saying this… These are fantastic irons.
[QUOTE=”chile, post: 12207065, member: 54997″]
I’ll keep saying this… These are fantastic irons.
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They really are. Been a big hit around here so far this year and the wife’s order is officially in and she’s [B]pumped[/B]. Added a Hy-wood to it too.
[QUOTE=”OldandStiff, post: 12207096, member: 53737″]
They really are. Been a big hit around here so far this year and the wife’s order is officially in and she’s [B]pumped[/B]. Added a Hy-wood to it too.
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For a cast iron, I am really happy with the feel. The added distance and forgiveness really helps in getting you back on track. I was really surprised with the distances I was getting out of less than ideal spots today.
I am looking at a Hy-wood as well. I’ve been throwing around grabbing a Darkspeed or LTDx Max to tinker with.
I appreciate your keeping us update [USER=54997]@chile[/USER]
Agree with you 100%. When you factor in price, it’s a must-try set if you’re looking at this type of iron.
Did a session with the CSX TruTracks… I think it went well
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I wonder how these compare to the Srixon ZX 4 mk ll other than aesthetics and the forged face?
[QUOTE=”Hacker67, post: 12214759, member: 71565″]
I wonder how these compare to the Srixon ZX 4 mk ll other than aesthetics and the forged face?
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I think I mentioned it elsewhere or in the review. Almost equal overall performance. A bit more spin and a bit less launch for me (a very small difference). Similar speeds. Nothing different in terms of forgiveness that I could quantify with my humanness.
Size/shape is a bit more compact and squared off with the 4’s.
4’s have that hollow body crack to them, even if it’s slight compared to some other similar irons. Zips were a little softer/duller.
I had my first 18 rounds with my Cleveland Smart Sole Full Face C chipper, S sand wedge, L lob wedge and Cleveland Zipcore XL 7-GW (GW+2*) irons today. The Zipcore XL irons were an incredible experience! Distance, launch, forgiveness and feel were beyond my expectations. I am still dealing with the strong lofts and gaps, but it is all coming together. Incredible irons!
My friend got fit into these over other brands. I will get to try them when the courses opens up.
I saw a set of Zipcore XL irons in a local golf shop, and after talking with the owner about them, I decided to try out their demo set during our league event on Saturday. They were absolutely fantastic!! I’m not sure if it’s the head technology or the counterweight, but they felt soooo smooth. Toe hits were no issue at all. It felt effortless to hit the ball, which is something I’m not used to! They definitely launch higher than my last iron set, which will take getting used to. Zipcore XLs will flow down to my current CBX4 wedges nicely.
tl;dr – Tried Zipcore XL irons, loved them, and I am buying a set.
It would be interesting to hit these against last years non halo launcher XLs which are slightly bigger and have more moi.
[QUOTE=”Karl, post: 12241029, member: 22697″]
It would be interesting to hit these against last years non halo launcher XLs which are slightly bigger and have more moi.
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I’ve owned last year’s set and going to hit these today. Stay tuned.
I currently have the ZX 4 mkll but what wasn’t mentioned was these come stock about a 1/2″ longer than the ZX 4. They also come 1 degree more upright than the ZX 4 which both differences would work well for me. Also the SW is 2 points heavier which at C-9 on the ZX 4 you can loose where the head is in your swing.
There is no up-charge for Recoil Darts but I’m curious about the lower torque and higher launch Helium.
The hollow body ZX 4 feels good but I’m not over joyed with the feel.
I’m really curious how the cavity back feels and I sometimes think inserts feel better than forged face.
[QUOTE=”Hacker67, post: 12244058, member: 71565″]
I’ve owned last year’s set and going to hit these today. Stay tuned.
I currently have the ZX 4 mkll but what wasn’t mentioned was these come stock about a 1/2″ longer than the ZX 4. They also come 1 degree more upright than the ZX 4 which both differences would work well for me. Also the SW is 2 points heavier which at C-9 on the ZX 4 you can loose where the head is in your swing.
There is no up-charge for Recoil Darts but I’m curious about the lower torque and higher launch Helium.
The hollow body ZX 4 feels good but I’m not over joyed with the feel.
I’m really curious how the cavity back feels and I sometimes think inserts feel better than forged face.
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I went with the launcher XLs over the zx4 last year because they were more consistent distance wise and a better value. Would like to try the zipcores though.
[QUOTE=”Roadrunner, post: 12236902, member: 5377″]
I saw a set of Zipcore XL irons in a local golf shop, and after talking with the owner about them, I decided to try out their demo set during our league event on Saturday. They were absolutely fantastic!! I’m not sure if it’s the head technology or the counterweight, but they felt soooo smooth. Toe hits were no issue at all. It felt effortless to hit the ball, which is something I’m not used to! They definitely launch higher than my last iron set, which will take getting used to. Zipcore XLs will flow down to my current CBX4 wedges nicely.
tl;dr – Tried Zipcore XL irons, loved them, and I am buying a set.
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Did you get steel or graphite?
I noticed on the website it says the KBS Tour Lite is 110g which I think is a mistake and the regular flex is 95g. The picture when you go to order stock steel says 95g on the shaft.
KBS didn’t make a Tour Lite 110g in regular flex.
[QUOTE=”Hacker67, post: 12248221, member: 71565″]
Did you get steel or graphite?
I noticed on the website it says the KBS Tour Lite is 110g which I think is a mistake and the regular flex is 95g. The picture when you go to order stock steel says 95g on the shaft.
KBS didn’t make a Tour Lite 110g in regular flex.
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Graphite (Helium Nanocore).
[QUOTE=”Roadrunner, post: 12248250, member: 5377″]
Graphite (Helium Nanocore).
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How you liking that shaft? I really want to compare it to my Recoil Dart.
[QUOTE=”Hacker67, post: 12248271, member: 71565″]
How you liking that shaft? I really want to compare it to my Recoil Dart.
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A bit lighter than Recoils (Dart or ESX 460) and definitely higher launch. Very much liking them so far.
[QUOTE=”Hacker67, post: 12248221, member: 71565″]
Did you get steel or graphite?
I noticed on the website it says the KBS Tour Lite is 110g which I think is a mistake and the regular flex is 95g. The picture when you go to order stock steel says 95g on the shaft.
KBS didn’t make a Tour Lite 110g in regular flex.
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I noticed this a while back. Could it be that Cleveland uses a parallel tip which in that case the Tour Lite is actually 105g in Reg flex? Taper tip is 95g
[USER=1193]@Hawk[/USER] or [USER=3]@JB[/USER] – any chance you guys could measure the shaft to see if its parallel vs taper?
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[QUOTE=”erock9174, post: 12248528, member: 7797″]
I noticed this a while back. Could it be that Cleveland uses a parallel tip which in that case the Tour Lite is actually 105g in Reg flex? Taper tip is 95g
[USER=1193]@Hawk[/USER] or [USER=3]@JB[/USER] – any chance you guys could measure the shaft to see if its parallel vs taper?
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It’s a 15g typo.
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[QUOTE=”Hacker67, post: 12249688, member: 71565″]
It’s a 15g typo.
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Could it be that Srixon uses the taper tip and Cleveland a parallel? Even on the demo shaft when I tried the reg flex in the Halos and Zipcores it said on the butt cap “Tour Lite 110g”
[QUOTE=”erock9174, post: 12249763, member: 7797″]
Could it be that Srixon uses the taper tip and Cleveland a parallel? Even on the demo shaft when I tried the reg flex in the Halos and Zipcores it said on the butt cap “Tour Lite 110g”
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Well KBS doesn’t make a 110g Tour Lite so even if the Zipcores were parallel wouldn’t it say 105g? The idea that they put stock 110g shafts in Halos which are supposed to be for slower swingers is mind-boggling. There is a Cleveland/Srixon fitting van coming to my club tomorrow I will swing by and see what’s up.
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[QUOTE=”erock9174, post: 12248528, member: 7797″]
I noticed this a while back. Could it be that Cleveland uses a parallel tip which in that case the Tour Lite is actually 105g in Reg flex? Taper tip is 95g
[USER=1193]@Hawk[/USER] or [USER=3]@JB[/USER] – any chance you guys could measure the shaft to see if its parallel vs taper?
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Shaft is installed. Is that going to be useful to you?
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12251094, member: 1193″]
Shaft is installed. Is that going to be useful to you?
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yeah I would think if measured with calipers just above the ferrule that would tell us if its .370 (parallel) or smaller (Taper). I mainly just want to put the question to rest as I questioned it when the irons first came out this year and now its popping back up again here in this thread. I know for me 95g is starting to get a little heavy for me. Anything over 95g and its a non-starter for me. I once was able to play Modus 105R’s but now its not in the cards for me as I am getting up there in age 🙂
Or maybe even better yet actually if someone has the 6i with the Tour Lite shaft in it and could measure the total weight of the club, I could back into shaft weight as i know what the 6i head weighs and if I knew the grip type could back that off resulting in the weight of the shaft.
[QUOTE=”erock9174, post: 12251171, member: 7797″]
yeah I would think if measured with calipers just above the ferrule that would tell us if its .370 (parallel) or smaller (Taper). I mainly just want to put the question to rest as I questioned it when the irons first came out this year and now its popping back up again here in this thread. I know for me 95g is starting to get a little heavy for me. Anything over 95g and its a non-starter for me. I once was able to play Modus 105R’s but now its not in the cards for me as I am getting up there in age 🙂
Or maybe even better yet actually if someone has the 6i with the Tour Lite shaft in it and could measure the total weight of the club, I could back into shaft weight as i know what the 6i head weighs and if I knew the grip type could back that off resulting in the weight of the shaft.
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I’ll try to make it happen today. I can’t help with the 6 iron.
[QUOTE=”Hacker67, post: 12249889, member: 71565″]
Well KBS doesn’t make a 110g Tour Lite so even if the Zipcores were parallel wouldn’t it say 105g?
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Not necessarily. KBS had made the “Max 80″ variant for years and it weighs over 110g. This one has always been really misleading to me. Thinking you are picking up an 80g shaft and its playing 30g heavier. 😮
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[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12251177, member: 1193″]
I’ll try to make it happen today. I can’t help with the 6 iron.
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if you have the 7i, I can “make” that work too, lol or at least get it close.
[QUOTE=”erock9174, post: 12251178, member: 7797″]
Not necessarily. KBS had made the “Max 80″ variant for years and it weighs over 110g. This one has always been really misleading to me. Thinking you are picking up an 80g shaft and its playing 30g heavier. 😮
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I realize sometimes the number on the shaft doesn’t represent the actual weight but what’s ironic is the KBS Tour (non-lite) is 110g. Is it possible they gave you the regular KBS Tour 110g instead of the KBS Tour Lite 95g for a demo? Did the label on the shaft indicate it was the Tour Lite?
My money is on this > Cleveland accidentally listed the regular KBS Tour weight instead of the Tour Lite weight.
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[QUOTE=”Hacker67, post: 12253077, member: 71565″]
I realize sometimes the number on the shaft doesn’t represent the actual weight but what’s ironic is the KBS Tour (non-lite) is 110g. Is it possible they gave you the regular KBS Tour 110g instead of the KBS Tour Lite 95g for a demo? Did the label on the shaft indicate it was the Tour Lite?
My money is on this > Cleveland accidentally listed the regular KBS Tour weight instead of the Tour Lite weight.
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The one I tested was a Tour Lite. White label with red lettering. . I’m familiar with it as I was fitted into the Tour Lite 95Reg last August. In some ZX5’s)
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The one I tested was a Tour Lite. White label with red lettering. . I’m familiar with it as I was fitted into the Tour Lite 95Reg last August. In some ZX5’s)
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So you tested a Tour Lite that was 110g? Did it feel heavier than your ZX 5 Tour Lite?
Calling a shaft that weighs 110g a “Lite” shaft is a stretch, especially when the regular non Lite one weighs 110g.
Also we have no explanation for the picture of a 95g Tour Lite on their order page.
I must get to the bottom of this?
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So you tested a Tour Lite that was 110g? Did it feel heavier than your ZX 5 Tour Lite?
Calling a shaft that weighs 110g a “Lite” shaft is a stretch, especially when the regular non Lite one weighs 110g.
Also we have no explanation for the picture of a 95g Tour Lite on their order page.
I must get to the bottom of this?
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I’d did feel heavier. But I was thinking it might have been placebo lol since the plastic butt cap said 110g. Thinking it might really just be the 95g ?
[QUOTE=”erock9174, post: 12253831, member: 7797″]
I’d did feel heavier. But I was thinking it might have been placebo lol since the plastic butt cap said 110g. Thinking it might really just be the 95g ?
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I have Nippon 125s in my launcher XLs. For you folks that like lighter, Nippon light steel could be a good match too.
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I’d did feel heavier. But I was thinking it might have been placebo lol since the plastic butt cap said 110g. Thinking it might really just be the 95g ?
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I hit them today it’s heavier than 95g and the shaft doesn’t have 95 label but just “R”
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I hit them today it’s heavier than 95g and the shaft doesn’t have 95 label but just “R”
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Good catch on not having the 95 on it.
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Good catch on not having the 95 on it.
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Has anyone emailed Cleveland to ask about the shaft mystery?