With Cleveland Golf making the decision to let the Halo XL lineup of fairways and hybrids stand out on their own as opposed to keeping the Launcher name on them there may be a level of surprise for some. Rest assured though; it is all part of a plan. You see, Cleveland is quick to point out with this release that more than half of all golfers surveyed admit that they keep clubs in the top of their bag which they cannot hit consistently. They also know thanks to the Arccos database that for 10-25 handicappers, 37% of their second shots into par 4’s per round are with clubs from that part of the bag. So how do you fix it?
That is where Halo XL comes in, and in this case, we are turning our attention to the new Hy-Wood and Hybrid options which THP has been working with for some time now. So, buckle up for a lot of tech talk as well as a performance breakdown.
Quick Take
Not only has Cleveland refined the Halo XL lineup to stand on its own two feet, but they have thoroughly refined the hybrids and Hy-Wood designs to an impressive degree. While certainly not your traditional sizes, both have found a much better look at setup externally with less offset and better flow. Internally, they have found ease and forgiveness backed by heads with a ton of power potential.
Cleveland Halo XL Hybrid and Hy-Wood – Technology and Design
I am of the opinion that historically speaking, Cleveland’s hybrid releases have been under-appreciated for what they offer. Going all the way back to the Mashie, they showed that as a brand they knew how to make workmanlike hybrid designs that do what they claim and do it well. With the previous Halo XL hybrids, THP tested them and found excellent performance, but a visual that was just a little too XL for some.
This time around, the XL Head Design is still present in both the hybrids and Hy-Wood with them coming in at 136cc and 162cc respectively, but there has been much work done to create a better flow. Focus has been put onto form and finish to keep the size but hopefully appeal to a wider audience.
With the other goal being options to better complete the top of the bag with proper gaps, all of the clubs in the Halo XL release are meant to blend with each other according to a golfer’s individual preferences. With the hybrids available in 3-7, considerable iron replacement is feasible, and above that the choice of the Halo XL Hy-Wood or even a fairway.
Internally, there is a lot to be curious about with Cleveland keeping their Rebound Frame and its dual flex zone design increasing energy efficiency to a new level. One of those flex zones is the MainFrame XL face with which they implemented AI to create a better and more uniquely shaped sweet spot that is more in line with where amateurs actually hit the ball. Unlike some companies out there, Cleveland isn’t just using CAD and calling it AI, instead they are running thousands of simulations to build a better club.
Those familiar with the previous Halo XL hybrid will be pleased to know that Gliderails are back as well, with both the standard hybrid and Hy-Wood having three rails each. The rails are on the aggressive side which is what allows the clubs to be swung into the turf and glide, not dig. That difference is what allows the face to square more consistently from a plethora of different lies. On a larger clubhead like these, that aspect is critical to increasing the overall playability, they want no one trick ponies here.
Both the Halo XL Hy-Wood and hybrids also have what Cleveland calls their Action Mass CB system under the grip. They have placed 8g in the butt of the shaft under the grip in order to make the overall weight feel lighter in the swing. Both clubs are non-adjustable and the hybrids come in 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 (3 and 4 available LH) while the Hy-Wood will be offered in 3+ as well as 4+ (17.0 and 20.0, both RH and LH). Hybrids come with either the Mitsubishi Tensei AV Series Blue 65 (R, S) or Aldila Ascent PL 50 (A, R, S) while the Hy-Wood has the Aldila Ascent PL 40 (A, R, S) as standard.
Cleveland XL Halo Hy-Wood – Performance Review
On top of breaking down all that tech talk, I was able to get the 17 degree 3+ Halo XL Hy-Wood paired with the Aldila Ascent PL 40S in for review over the past few weeks. This is one which I was extremely excited to get in hand because during the release of the previous version I found some of the most ridiculous ball speeds I had seen to that point, but admittedly the rest of the package left me wanting a bit.
So, upon unboxing I was happy to see that though it is not at all a wholesale change for the Hy-Wood, it is a nice evolution. Visually, the clubhead is absolutely a beefy one and the Hi-Bore Crown Step jumps out at you as well, but not as much as the previous version in my opinion thanks to the slick deep grey gloss crown that looks much more finished this time around. There is still some offset and a neutral-to-closed face angle to my eye, but it doesn’t smack you in the face as much this time.
After putting the 3+ Hy-Wood to work on the course and the Foresight launch monitor, I have some interesting takes on the performance. First, this is a brilliant club in terms of where it fits and what it does, it absolutely wants to achieve that, and those who fear fairways will find an incredibly easy to launch option in the 17.0 3+. Not to mention, I truly felt like I could hit the ball anywhere on the face (and I did) and still see a ton of launch and directional forgiveness with things never over accentuating on heel/toe shots.
However, you will see in the data that I did have to fight the shaft setup a good bit. Part of this admittedly is because I am not the target audience for the 47g shaft at my speed. Even then, I made sure to just go at it to see just what the head was capable of off the turf. The sound/feel is slightly hollow but on the crunchy end of things allowing you to sense where strikes are without any overly harsh feedback.
What I am left with is that there is some serious firepower here with the right build, hitting the ball speeds I did proves that. But it was on the course that I saw the most value in a club like this as it becomes a legitimate tee and turf threat for a golfer who isn’t comfortable with fairway woods. I have said it about the previous versions, and will here with this one, the Hy-Wood needs to stay, and more golfers need to go out and try one.
Cleveland XL Halo Hybrid – Performance Review
Now this one, this is the one that surprised me the most. I worked with the 21 degree 4-hybrid for the past several weeks. Though initially I was hesitant, the XL Halo ended up as one of the longest and easiest to hit hybrids I have tested. More than that, it looks fantastic. The deep smokey metallic grey finish and flowing shape hides the oversized nature to a degree I never expected. With this beautiful finish even the Hi-Bore Crown Step seems to just blend more, kudos to Cleveland here.
The sound and feel of the 4-Hybrid were pretty ideal. Though it isn’t the super muted carbon crack we are seeing more and more, there is a crunch here that is much more solid than the Hy-Wood was which even turned a few heads on the course hitting into a couple of par 5’s. The club sits neutral to ever so slightly closed to my eye which makes it something I could get on with long term.
Paired with the Mitsubishi Tensei AV Series Blue 65S I didn’t know what to expect on the Foresight given my experience with the fit of the Hy-Wood, but it turns out I needn’t have worried. Even in what I would consider a non-ideal personal fit, this hybrid showed out both on the course and monitor. Interestingly, on the course I had several shots I left doubting the distance I had seen, but as you can see from the data, there is a lot of power in this one.
Ample ball speeds combined with 110 foot peak heights means that this club opens up a lot of possibilities both off the tee and into greens. Obviously, my swing isn’t your swing, but the clubhead here is running on all cylinders. Shots across the face kept good feedback while I didn’t battle any snappy misses and the sweet spot seemed like I had to work to miss it at times.
I made sure to hit the 4-Hybrid from all the different lies I could to work over the Gliderails and that middle rudder like rail seemed to do most of the heavy lifting to let me get to the ball time and again. There may not have been full power behind some of the strikes, and you could still get heavy, but each and every time the club got back to the ball, you cannot ask for much more than that.
The Details
I’m not sure how you could go and hit the new Halo XL Hybrid lineup in its entirety and not come away impressed with the breadth and variety it offers while at the same time keeping the blending potential which Cleveland Golf has put so much emphasis on. They may not be the ideal shape or profile for you, but they are worth experiencing, and hopefully the access is there for golfers of all skill levels to do just that.
The entire Cleveland Halo XL Hybrid lineup hits retail on 1/19/24 with the Hy-Wood priced at $249.99 and the hybrids $239.99.
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 12221698, member: 3″]
It’s really good.
Great distance. Easy to elevate, fast and just goes!
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You have been playing with the 3+ right? How would you build the bag around it with what you have seen?
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12221756, member: 62865″]
You have been playing with the 3+ right? How would you build the bag around it with what you have seen?
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For me I would go driver, hy-wood and then 4 hybrid.
[USER=62865]@Scooby45[/USER] I don’t need this, and its all your fault I’m here lol
this club is very much in the back of my mind. For those that have given this a go along with the Super Hybrid, how does it compare?
[QUOTE=”hedley_lamarr08, post: 12221787, member: 37622″]
[USER=62865]@Scooby45[/USER] I don’t need this, and its all your fault I’m here lol
this club is very much in the back of my mind. For those that have given this a go along with the Super Hybrid, how does it compare?
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You might not need it, but think it has a chance to clean up the top of my bag. Go driver, 3+, 4 hybrid, should gap enough for my skill at that distance. Then it opens a spot up for a specialty club I can explore, either the second driver, the chipper, maybe that one length utility I’ve been eyeing, maybe a 64 deg wedge for certain courses.
The more I talk about it, the more I’m curious.
A week ago I was fit into a Smoke Max driver, it came in today and did a fitting session to see about filling out the top of the bag. Plus this was the first time getting the Hywood on a launch monitor. Hit a few with the Hywood and G430 4H to get a baseline then hit some different 3W and 5-7W. Then back to the Hywood. Every shot with the Hywood was dead straight and went from 175 to then 185 carry on the second round rolling out over 200. By contrast, Smoke Max 3HL, Cleveland 3W, and Darkspeed 3W were all varying degrees of draw and none of them were longer. A few hits were similar distance, but dispersion was worse than the Hywood by a significant margin.
Had pretty much the same with the G430 4H – hit it straight, slightly low launch, but consistent straight or baby draw. 5W and 7W were no longer and way more variable.
At the end of the day, bought a dozen balls :). The fitter said, “if you’re hitting the Hywood like that, I’d be looking to use that as much as possible on the course. 185 carry dead straight is pretty useful.” I agree.
Mine has the Tensei blue 55g shaft and that is perfect for me. Ended up with the same shaft in the driver.
[QUOTE=”nostatic, post: 12231562, member: 51323″]
A week ago I was fit into a Smoke Max driver, it came in today and did a fitting session to see about filling out the top of the bag. Plus this was the first time getting the Hywood on a launch monitor. Hit a few with the Hywood and G430 4H to get a baseline then hit some different 3W and 5-7W. Then back to the Hywood. Every shot with the Hywood was dead straight and went from 175 to then 185 carry on the second round rolling out over 200. By contrast, Smoke Max 3HL, Cleveland 3W, and Darkspeed 3W were all varying degrees of draw and none of them were longer. A few hits were similar distance, but dispersion was worse than the Hywood by a significant margin.
Had pretty much the same with the G430 4H – hit it straight, slightly low launch, but consistent straight or baby draw. 5W and 7W were no longer and way more variable.
At the end of the day, bought a dozen balls :). The fitter said, “if you’re hitting the Hywood like that, I’d be looking to use that as much as possible on the course. 185 carry dead straight is pretty useful.” I agree.
Mine has the Tensei blue 55g shaft and that is perfect for me. Ended up with the same shaft in the driver.
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Great feedback.
I’m going to try out the 3hywood. I’ve been struggling with the fairway woods off the deck. I already own 3 hybrids why not add another. ?. Has anyone bought the hywood and if so what are your thoughts?
Most people like the hywood and it is a fairway club replacement.
From what I e been researching you put a hybrid swing on it. I hit my hybrids consistently. I can’t wait to try this out at the store.
From what I’ve been researching you put a hybrid swing on it. I hit my hybrids consistently. I can’t wait to test this club out.
[QUOTE=”Lefty11, post: 12234692, member: 77729″]
From what I’ve been researching you put a hybrid swing on it. I hit my hybrids consistently. I can’t wait to test this club out.
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Good luck testing and let us all know how it goes.
You can probably get a good deal with the prior gen, I haven’t heard much about the difference of the two.
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[QUOTE=”Carolina Golfer, post: 12234706, member: 44136″]
You can probably get a good deal with the prior gen, I haven’t heard much about the difference of the two.
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I checked last years model is 18 degree. Unfortunately, I need the 17 degree which is this year. Which will help bridge gaps for me.
I looked at last year’s version. It’s a 18 degree. I need this year’s for the 17 degree to help me fill a gap.
[QUOTE=”Lefty11, post: 12234881, member: 77729″]
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I checked last years model is 18 degree. Unfortunately, I need the 17 degree which is this year. Which will help bridge gaps for me.
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May want to ponder shafts. The stock one is quite light. I went with the Tensei Blue 55R and it is perfect for me but everyone’s swing is different. I originally was going to go with the 65R but it was out of stock. Lucky for me, as the 55 times perfectly. Ymmv.
[QUOTE=”nostatic, post: 12235106, member: 51323″]
May want to ponder shafts. The stock one is quite light. I went with the Tensei Blue 55R and it is perfect for me but everyone’s swing is different. I originally was going to go with the 65R but it was out of stock. Lucky for me, as the 55 times perfectly. Ymmv.
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Thanks for the advice. They should put a decent shaft in it considering it’s
Pricey.
[QUOTE=”Lefty11, post: 12239426, member: 77729″]
Thanks for the advice. They should put a decent shaft in it considering it’s
Pricey.
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There’s nothing wrong with the stock Aldila shaft. It is just very light. Tensei 55 or 65 is a no-cost option.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12221678, member: 62865″]
Any additional hywood feedback out there? The fairway wood was a bit of an adventure today….
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I still have the OG HyWood in my bag, in the 5W spot.
This might make it easier to check out some new Cleveland offerings, I believe it is good until 4/15[ATTACH type=”full”]9253357[/ATTACH]
[QUOTE=”JDax, post: 12240751, member: 22002″]
I still have the OG HyWood in my bag, in the 5W spot.
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I’m probably going to be putting the original back in the bag this season. It was such a versatile club for me, especially out of the rough.
[QUOTE=”Bernoulli, post: 12240938, member: 42734″]
I’m probably going to be putting the original back in the bag this season. It was such a versatile club for me, especially out of the rough.
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Such a good club, no doubt.
[QUOTE=”nostatic, post: 12240738, member: 51323″]
There’s nothing wrong with the stock Aldila shaft. It is just very light. Tensei 55 or 65 is a no-cost option.
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I haven’t seen that option on any website to switch the shaft.
[QUOTE=”Lefty11, post: 12242368, member: 77729″]
I haven’t seen that option on any website to switch the shaft.
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Click the “Custom Build” button under the add to cart button.
So I got the 6H with the Tensei Blue 65R given how well I’ve gotten along with the 3+ Hywood. Have hit it a couple of range sessions and all I can say is these things just work. Interestingly the head is smaller than the G430 5H (which is 26*, the Cleveland is 27*) and also smaller than Smoke HL 7H. The shaft may be a bit long – I choke down a bit to get it where it feels like the right length. But then just swing and it goes straight. I was hitting it same distance as the G430. Part of that I think is just that the shaft (and counterbalance) really works for me.
May end up with more of these in the bag. Yeah, you can’t adjust them but at this point I don’t need to. They just go like stink…
I hit [USER=1193]@Hawk[/USER] ‘s HyWood at the range today, and I liked it. I prefer my Franken-HyWood a bit more. But the standard build is really good too.
[QUOTE=”JDax, post: 12285525, member: 22002″]
I hit [USER=1193]@Hawk[/USER] ‘s HyWood at the range today, and I liked it. I prefer my Franken-HyWood a bit more. But the standard build is really good too.
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Pros? Cons?
My Hy-wood is the club that has been in my bag the longest. Given my penchant for trying new stuff, this is saying a lot!!
I have the 3+ and 4+ in the bag. Really enjoying them.
Is there some reason they don’t make this club in 15 degrees, and/or 23 degrees? I wish I could get another 10-15 yards on the 3+.
[QUOTE=”Steve V, post: 12287569, member: 69287″]
I have the 3+ and 4+ in the bag. Really enjoying them.
Is there some reason they don’t make this club in 15 degrees, and/or 23 degrees? I wish I could get another 10-15 yards on the 3+.
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How are those two gapping for you?
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12297323, member: 62865″]
How are those two gapping for you?
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Curious as well. The Cleveland online fitting tool gives me very little yardage difference between the two, but I’m about 220 with driver. Assume someone with more speed could make them work.
Happy new owner of a 3+. It’s got the stock shaft in it – again, a big thanks to my great friend [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] for giving me a chance to see how a club like this can help my game. I’ve never actually hit a Hy-Wood before.
It’s light in the hand with the stock shaft. I like that. Head is kinda big, but not in a big fairway wood way. I wasn’t scared to swing it, even on the course, so another good sign. A bit closed and didn’t love the straight lines on the crown, but again – didn’t really matter.
I had some immediate range love going on with this thing. Very surprised how high I hit it both from the turf and the tee. I can’t really give any sort of distance or gapping info yet, as it was into the wind and I have no clue how deep the flags at briggs were.
I think Cleveland gets sound right in clubs like this and the Hy-Wood is no exception. It’s metallic and bouncy.
I can’t say I hit any great shots with it on the course. Some good ones. Here’s where it shined though (I have no shame). You can literally hit the ground 4 inches behind the ball and it just doesn’t matter that much lol. Yea, you’ll lose distance, but the sole glides the head right into the ball and it goes somewhere.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12298404, member: 1193″]
Happy new owner of a 3+. It’s got the stock shaft in it – again, a big thanks to my great friend [USER=1579]@Jman[/USER] for giving me a chance to see how a club like this can help my game. I’ve never actually hit a Hy-Wood before.
It’s light in the hand with the stock shaft. I like that. Head is kinda big, but not in a big fairway wood way. I wasn’t scared to swing it, even on the course, so another good sign. A bit closed and didn’t love the straight lines on the crown, but again – didn’t really matter.
I had some immediate range love going on with this thing. Very surprised how high I hit it both from the turf and the tee. I can’t really give any sort of distance or gapping info yet, as it was into the wind and I have no clue how deep the flags at briggs were.
I think Cleveland gets sound right in clubs like this and the Hy-Wood is no exception. It’s metallic and bouncy.
I can’t say I hit any great shots with it on the course. Some good ones. Here’s where it shined though (I have no shame). You can literally hit the ground 4 inches behind the ball and it just doesn’t matter that much lol. Yea, you’ll lose distance, but the sole glides the head right into the ball and it goes somewhere.
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I have the original 3+ . It’s versatile from any lie.
[QUOTE=”Bernoulli, post: 12298423, member: 42734″]
I have the original 3+ . It’s versatile from any lie.
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I’ve known it would be a likely winner for me for a long time, but just hand’t had a chance to try it out. Really cool golf club!
A few swings on the ST+ showed me the 3+ is getting me 5w distance, but much easier to swing.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12299117, member: 1193″]
A few swings on the ST+ showed me the 3+ is getting me 5w distance, but much easier to swing.
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I’ve also found that it goes straight almost no matter what I do. The “easier to swing” is spot-on.
[QUOTE=”nostatic, post: 12300526, member: 51323″]
I’ve also found that it goes straight almost no matter what I do. The “easier to swing” is spot-on.
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It’s definitely not overly biased from what I’m seeing. Love that springy feeling at impact.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12300729, member: 1193″]
It’s definitely not overly biased from what I’m seeing. Love that springy feeling at impact.
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I still like your reaction sitting it down at address the first time hahahaha
She big.
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 12300768, member: 1579″]
I still like your reaction sitting it down at address the first time hahahaha
She big.
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It’s like a 7 7/8 fitted cap.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12300780, member: 1193″]
It’s like a 7 7/8 fitted cap.
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That might be the best reference/comparison ever.
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 12300785, member: 1579″]
That might be the best reference/comparison ever.
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That’s because you also have a big old head like me.
I’m a bit smitten by this thing. I think it could be a game changer for me, because historically I just struggle with anything between driver and 4h.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12300796, member: 1193″]
That’s because you also have a big old head like me.
I’m a bit smitten by this thing. I think it could be a game changer for me, because historically I just struggle with anything between driver and 4h.
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Yup, it could be that club for a ton of golfers. It’s big, it’s got a little offset, the angles are a little different to look at, but it’s neutral (head, shaft obviously wasn’t a fit for me) and it just works tee and turf. It’s fun.
[QUOTE=”Jman, post: 12300808, member: 1579″]
Yup, it could be that club for a ton of golfers. It’s big, it’s got a little offset, the angles are a little different to look at, but it’s neutral (head, shaft obviously wasn’t a fit for me) and it just works tee and turf. It’s fun.
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I can see where the shaft would be an issue for some guys, but part of me also wonders just how many of those guys really need a club like this to begin with. To me, the light weight is integral in the whole concept of providing an option that can be elevated at lower lofts. As a comparison, I tried the one [USER=22002]@JDax[/USER] built and preferred the stock version by quite a wide margin.
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12300818, member: 1193″]
I can see where the shaft would be an issue for some guys, but part of me also wonders just how many of those guys really need a club like this to begin with. To me, the light weight is integral in the whole concept of providing an option that can be elevated at lower lofts. As a comparison, I tried the one [USER=22002]@JDax[/USER] built and preferred the stock version by quite a wide margin.
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I had an 8X in that one after review and before I put the stock shaft back in to bring to you and it was never close to the same club. It’s definitely, imo, built the way it is for a reason, and it does it so damn well.
I have had the Launcher XL Hy-Wood for a little over 2 years now. I love it. It has been in the bag longer than any club I have. (Sad, I know). It is literally point and shoot from 200-215 yards. My only gripe is that the regular flex shaft is a little whippy. I should have bought the stiff shaft. I can adjust for it by choking down a bit and taking a nice smooth swing. It is the most consistent club I have.
[QUOTE=”JimmyOhio, post: 12300855, member: 52694″]
I have had the Launcher XL Hy-Wood for a little over 2 years now. I love it. It has been in the bag longer than any club I have. (Sad, I know). It is literally point and shoot from 200-215 yards. My only gripe is that the regular flex shaft is a little whippy. I should have bought the stiff shaft. I can adjust for it by choking down a bit and taking a nice smooth swing. It is the most consistent club I have.
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I’d say embrace the whip with that kind of performance!
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12300818, member: 1193″]
I can see where the shaft would be an issue for some guys, but part of me also wonders just how many of those guys really need a club like this to begin with. To me, the light weight is integral in the whole concept of providing an option that can be elevated at lower lofts. As a comparison, I tried the one [USER=22002]@JDax[/USER] built and preferred the stock version by quite a wide margin.
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Can you expand on that? I’m really curious on this club but have historically struggled to time lighter shafts. Could 100% use the added launch from them, but hitting it high doesn’t matter if it’s sailing over trees left and right…
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12300818, member: 1193″]
I can see where the shaft would be an issue for some guys, but part of me also wonders just how many of those guys really need a club like this to begin with. To me, the light weight is integral in the whole concept of providing an option that can be elevated at lower lofts. As a comparison, I tried the one [USER=22002]@JDax[/USER] built and preferred the stock version by quite a wide margin.
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The way I built it was to make it more hybrid like than wood. It works for me, but rebuilding it took the whole counter balance out of the club. It’s a FrankenHyWood really. Not the club that one can buy.
[QUOTE=”Scooby45, post: 12301061, member: 62865″]
Can you expand on that? I’m really curious on this club but have historically struggled to time lighter shafts. Could 100% use the added launch from them, but hitting it high doesn’t matter if it’s sailing over trees left and right…
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I just think you have a subgroup of golfers that this club is designed for. Lighter and softer shafts tend to be useful for many of them, but you’ll often see a rejection of them. Sometimes it’s based in reality and sometimes it’s based less in reality. To me, the shaft is just easy to swing, seems to generate some speed, and pairs up perfectly with the concept of the club. I get that it won’t be for everybody, but probably would be fine for the majority of people that it’s intended for.
[QUOTE=”JDax, post: 12301117, member: 22002″]
The way I built it was to make it more hybrid like than wood. It works for me, but rebuilding it took the whole counter balance out of the club. It’s a FrankenHyWood really. Not the club that one can buy.
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I agree you shouldn’t change a thing about your setup. You really hit it well!
[QUOTE=”Hawk, post: 12300868, member: 1193″]
I’d say embrace the whip with that kind of performance!
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Embrace the whip is well said. I’ve hit some great shots with the original hy-wood thinking a slow swing with good tempo.
How does the stock shaft compare to the cypher of the old one? The older one just works and works damn well. I’ve always wanted maybe another 10-15 yards tho, so thinking of the new one. But the Cypher shaft just fits me so well.