What came in shocking news today, first reported by CNBC, the LIV Golf vs PGA Tour saga may be coming to an end.
Jump into the THP Conversation on the forum and discuss here.
What came in shocking news today, first reported by CNBC, the LIV Golf vs PGA Tour saga may be coming to an end.
Jump into the THP Conversation on the forum and discuss here.
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[QUOTE=”templeton80, post: 11553394, member: 53139″]After reading a number of articles on this the consensus I am reading is that the tour won, but the players lost.[/QUOTE]And what about the fans? I don’t have a clue how it works out for us overall, but getting all the players back together is a good thing.
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[QUOTE=”xThor, post: 11553410, member: 19092″]
Any way Monahan survives this?
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He probably got the fattest check of them all. He is not going anywhere. I hate that guy..
[QUOTE=”xThor, post: 11553410, member: 19092″]
Any way Monahan survives this?
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I’d be very surprised. I don’t think he has many fans in any corner of the room at this point.
[QUOTE=”templeton80, post: 11553415, member: 53139″]
He probably got the fattest check of them all. He is not going anywhere. I hate that guy..
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He definitely will be.
With a sweet buy out deal as well.
[QUOTE=”jezimmerman1, post: 11553414, member: 70643″]
And what about the fans? I don’t have a clue how it works out for us overall, but getting all the players back together is a good thing.
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The fans never win. You should know that by now..
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 11553418, member: 3″]
He definitely will be.
With a sweet buy out deal as well.
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Maybe, I would be ok with that. I just think after negotiating the tour getting flush with cash and not having to pay taxes on it in the same way as other companies, he will be around for a bit.
[QUOTE=”jjjgolf500, post: 11553412, member: 58608″]Ya, Just a guess but LIV could be just as big of a loser in this as Jays reputation and the PGAT players that turned down the initial money.[/QUOTE]How so? How does liv lose? I think they just took over.
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I am just seeing this and holy crap.
Things are definitely about to get interesting.
[QUOTE=”templeton80, post: 11553415, member: 53139″]
He probably got the fattest check of them all. He is not going anywhere. I hate that guy..
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It’s amazing how ‘situational’ ethics can be, right? “It’s blood money, blood money, blood money – until I’m getting a fat sack of it, then it’s okay!”
[QUOTE=”templeton80, post: 11553419, member: 53139″]
The fans never win. You should know that by now..
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Im willing to hold out hope that there is something in place in 2024 that is really fan-centric.
But if people have an issue with the money in LIV, surely they have the same issue now.
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 11553425, member: 3″]
[B][I]But if people have an issue with the money in LIV, surely they have the same issue now.[/I][/B]
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[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 11553390, member: 2320″]
My dude!!!
Also, have you seen this tweet yet?
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[USER=56094]@Muchmore18[/USER] <3
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[USER=2320]@Canadan[/USER] are we going to get an Off Course about this?
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 11553425, member: 3″]
Im willing to hold out hope that there is something in place in 2024 that is really fan-centric.
But if people have an issue with the money in LIV, surely they have the same issue now.
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The PGA Tour has made it VERY clear that it’s extremely easy to depart from that logic ?
[QUOTE=”templeton80, post: 11553419, member: 53139″]
The fans never win. You should know that by now..
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IDK I feel pretty good about all of the best players in the world being able to play in the same tournaments again.
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[USER=2320]@Canadan[/USER] are we going to get an Off Course about this?
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Do you want one?
[QUOTE=”That post, post: 11553433, member: 65950″]
IDK I feel pretty good about all of the best players in the world being able to play in the same tournaments again.
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Did that really change? LIV guys where in all the majors.. even won one..
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 11553436, member: 2320″]
Do you want one?
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Absolutely…
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 11553436, member: 2320″]
Do you want one?
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Yep..
[QUOTE=”jjjgolf500, post: 11553413, member: 58608″]The players seem to be saying NO.[/QUOTE]That may be their feelings until they get behind closed doors. I think once they realize the cost of their legal fight with an ultimate deep pocket with the precarious position of their non profit status in the balance with the ongoing fight. I think Monahan finishes his term and fades away.
[QUOTE=”templeton80, post: 11553439, member: 53139″]
Did that really change? LIV guys where in all the majors.. even won one..
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Most notably L had to be Cam not being able to play at Sawgrass.
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 11553436, member: 2320″]
Do you want one?
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Yes. Book Rory. You have that sort of pull.
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 11553432, member: 2320″]
The PGA Tour has made it VERY clear that it’s extremely easy to depart from that logic ?
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Its why the players voices will be so unique.
Im thinking about guys like Homa and others that could have bolted. Hideki was going to get a HUGE sum and stayed at the last minute.
They can’t be thrilled right now.
But I have a feeling Jay is going to explain that all of this money is going to be theirs.
[QUOTE=”SkiBumGolfer, post: 11553423, member: 15030″]
I am just seeing this and holy crap.
Things are definitely about to get interesting.
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If your just seeing this. You’ve missed a pretty fantastic tweet that I’m sure will be posted several more times. Head on a swivel.
Monahan is about to address the membership soon.
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 11553446, member: 2320″]
Most notably L had to be Cam not being able to play at Sawgrass.
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True.. That one did suck and there was tons of pettiness around it.
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 11553448, member: 3″]
Its why the players voices will be so unique.
Im thinking about guys like Homa and others that could have bolted. Hideki was going to get a HUGE sum and stayed at the last minute.
They can’t be thrilled right now.
But I have a feeling Jay is going to explain that all of this money is going to be theirs.
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It’s crazy to think how much money was left on the table. I think some folks have already posted the number.
These guys all talked legacy and doing the right thing and blah blah blah and their Tour just said “Nah, dog” haha – It’s really something.
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 11553425, member: 3″]
Im willing to hold out hope that there is something in place in 2024 that is really fan-centric.
But if people have an issue with the money in LIV, surely they have the same issue now.
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[QUOTE=”templeton80, post: 11553452, member: 53139″]
True.. That one did suck and there was tons of pettiness around it.
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Ill say. Living 10 minutes from that place, you saw his name erased, parking space gone, and he was a bit ostracized in the area.
[QUOTE=”David7, post: 11553451, member: 69607″]
Monahan is about to address the membership soon.
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I hope the members look like this when he opens the door.
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[QUOTE=”That post, post: 11553449, member: 65950″]
If your just seeing this. You’ve missed a pretty fantastic tweet that I’m sure will be posted several more times. Head on a swivel.
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You mean this one????
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[QUOTE=”That post, post: 11553449, member: 65950″]
If your just seeing this. You’ve missed a pretty fantastic tweet that I’m sure will be posted several more times. Head on a swivel.
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Surely you have access to this tweet and can post it for all to see….
[QUOTE=”David7, post: 11553451, member: 69607″]
Monahan is about to address the membership soon.
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[QUOTE=”templeton80, post: 11553439, member: 53139″]
Did that really change? LIV guys where in all the majors.. even won one..
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I enjoyed seeing them in the majors for sure. But I’d be lying if I said I didn’t miss some of them in other Tour events. I watched LIV a good bit but it the competition on both sides was diluted.
As a fan I’m glad its not going to be anymore. Feels like a win.
[QUOTE=”Canadan, post: 11553436, member: 2320″]
Do you want one?
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[QUOTE=”That post, post: 11553449, member: 65950″]
If your just seeing this. You’ve missed a pretty fantastic tweet that I’m sure will be posted several more times. Head on a swivel.
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??? We have merch! ???
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Is there a scenario where the Tour players are like “nah Jay”?
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 11553448, member: 3″]
But I have a feeling Jay is going to explain that all of this money is going to be theirs.[/QUOTE]
Not sure how Monahan can make up 800mil to Tigre and the others that stayed. I do think this makes all involved better going forward. But my guess is there will be some fallout by those that did not cash in.
[QUOTE=”jbb2388, post: 11553457, member: 67726″]
You mean this one????
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I sense a [USER=2320]@Canadan[/USER] avatar change!
[QUOTE=”That post, post: 11553468, member: 65950″]
Hot of the no-duh news desk.
I want to hear from those players.
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That is the million dollar question.
Will they speak publicly, or be reigned in.
Sense prevails…. As much as people will take a side . Eventually your going to have to work it out and find conciliation ….
Otherwise you’ll have infinity war that no
One would ever win and all the resources get diluted instead of the game prospering …
Now we can all get some sleep ….lol
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 11553448, member: 3″]
Its why the players voices will be so unique.
Im thinking about guys like Homa and others that could have bolted. Hideki was going to get a HUGE sum and stayed at the last minute.
They can’t be thrilled right now.
But I have a feeling Jay is going to explain that all of this money is going to be theirs.
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Tiger $800m
Hideki $400m
Rahm $300m
Willy Z $130m
Sam Burns $100m
Rickie Fowler $75m
They can’t be pleased…
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 11553472, member: 3″]
That is the million dollar question.
Will they speak publicly, or be reigned in.
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I feel like they have to speak publically. Though I feel like the top guys are going to have highly manicured PR statements they will stick to. I hope we get some ‘real talk’ but I doubt it there is too much [I]more[/I] to lose for them. They won’t want to take another L.
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I feel like they have to speak publically. Though I feel like the top guys are going to have highly manicured PR statements they will stick to. I hope we get some ‘real talk’ but I doubt it there is too much [I]more[/I] to lose for them. They won’t want to take another L.
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Some said the LIV guys were not allowed to speak, how will that be different?
[QUOTE=”templeton80, post: 11553394, member: 53139″]
After reading a number of articles on this the consensus I am reading is that the tour won, but the players lost.
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You mean the PGA Tour? The PGA Tour as a collective just took a great big L although those at the top definitely won. Well, their bank accounts did anyway. The leaderboard looks something like this:
1. LIV golfers
2. LIV
5. PGAT management
17. Fans
CUT. PGAT players
Can’t wait for Kizner’s take on all of this.
[QUOTE=”JB, post: 11553472, member: 3″]
That is the million dollar question.
Will they speak publicly, or be reigned in.
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What’s the worse than can happen? If they PGAT tries to punish them, all they need to do is move to the……
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…..nevermind. They have to make nice with the PGAT.
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Did Phil already know when he tweeted this?
Not going political but it’s interesting the timing of LIV phasing away if you are aware of other things going on. I wouldn’t be surprised if something about LIV comes out in something else shortly. The timing seems very coincidental.